Comments on: Cheap Subnotebooks and UMPC’s with touch keyboard size comparison http://rodfathermobile.com/2007/11/03/cheap-subnotebooks-and-umpcs-with-touch-keyboard-size-comparison/ Rodfather’s mobile tech blog Wed, 22 Jun 2011 09:28:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Anonymous http://rodfathermobile.com/2007/11/03/cheap-subnotebooks-and-umpcs-with-touch-keyboard-size-comparison/comment-page-1/#comment-286161 Anonymous Tue, 21 Jun 2011 10:33:00 +0000 http://rodfathermobile.com/2007/11/03/cheap-subnotebooks-and-umpcs-with-touch-keyboard-size-comparison/#comment-286161 The touch keyboard is easy to be broken ,so we must protect it carefully. The touch keyboard is easy to be broken ,so we must protect it carefully.

]]> By: rodfather http://rodfathermobile.com/2007/11/03/cheap-subnotebooks-and-umpcs-with-touch-keyboard-size-comparison/comment-page-1/#comment-17561 rodfather Sun, 17 Feb 2008 01:23:40 +0000 http://rodfathermobile.com/2007/11/03/cheap-subnotebooks-and-umpcs-with-touch-keyboard-size-comparison/#comment-17561 I mentioned 'by most accounts', a 9" wide keyboard is what most people can deal with and still able to 10 finger touch type. Demonstrated by the Fujitsu P1610, Panasonic subnotebooks, and now the Eee PC. Don't give me this right or wrong bullshit. Whether someone is comfortable with a keyboard is subjective, a personal decision. I can now type fairly fast on the Fujitsu U810. It took around 2 months to get there and it's by no means comfortable. But that's me. I suspect this is Primaz posting this crap over and over and over. Move on with your clown sized pants. I mentioned ‘by most accounts’, a 9″ wide keyboard is what most people can deal with and still able to 10 finger touch type. Demonstrated by the Fujitsu P1610, Panasonic subnotebooks, and now the Eee PC.

Don’t give me this right or wrong bullshit. Whether someone is comfortable with a keyboard is subjective, a personal decision.

I can now type fairly fast on the Fujitsu U810. It took around 2 months to get there and it’s by no means comfortable. But that’s me.

I suspect this is Primaz posting this crap over and over and over. Move on with your clown sized pants.

]]> By: James http://rodfathermobile.com/2007/11/03/cheap-subnotebooks-and-umpcs-with-touch-keyboard-size-comparison/comment-page-1/#comment-17431 James Sat, 16 Feb 2008 19:29:52 +0000 http://rodfathermobile.com/2007/11/03/cheap-subnotebooks-and-umpcs-with-touch-keyboard-size-comparison/#comment-17431 Alan is correct and rodfather is not. If you remember the era of the handheld hpc's? Psion 5mx, Revo along with HP Jornada 720/728's were 6.9" to 7.3" in length. I could type about 75-80% of my desktop speeds once I got used to having my fingers close together, which took about 30-45 minutes of using that form factor for the first time. The Fujitsu wasted a lot of potential keyboard space and should have designed it longer so that it would be touch type input. The same goes for the Sony, OQO. The era of the HPC clamshells had sales of over 2.3 million a year before the OS was stopped by MS. They proved that a device 6.9 to 7.3" by 3.6" by .90 to 1.25" could provide a jacket size touch type computer. To me we have the technology to take that to its true potential and make the industry first pocket laptop running full windows. What is the value of a thumb or pen input with full windows? not much as the market demonstrated a mere 350K UMPC's sold as stated in the 12/07 Forbes article. The only device so far that seems to provide true touch type and still fit into a jacket is the Samsung sph p9200 currently only sold in Korea but rumored at CES2008 to be in talks with Sprint to try to bring that and wimax (4G) products/service to the US. Intel has created some great chips which further provide more ease to create a pocket laptop but so far the designs are not right and just like what happened to all of the thumb and 7" umpc's, I suspect they will not do well either. When will computer companies realize what mainstream users want? Alan is correct and rodfather is not. If you remember the era of the handheld hpc’s? Psion 5mx, Revo along with HP Jornada 720/728′s were 6.9″ to 7.3″ in length. I could type about 75-80% of my desktop speeds once I got used to having my fingers close together, which took about 30-45 minutes of using that form factor for the first time.

The Fujitsu wasted a lot of potential keyboard space and should have designed it longer so that it would be touch type input. The same goes for the Sony, OQO.

The era of the HPC clamshells had sales of over 2.3 million a year before the OS was stopped by MS. They proved that a device 6.9 to 7.3″ by 3.6″ by .90 to 1.25″ could provide a jacket size touch type computer. To me we have the technology to take that to its true potential and make the industry first pocket laptop running full windows.

What is the value of a thumb or pen input with full windows? not much as the market demonstrated a mere 350K UMPC’s sold as stated in the 12/07 Forbes article.

The only device so far that seems to provide true touch type and still fit into a jacket is the Samsung sph p9200 currently only sold in Korea but rumored at CES2008 to be in talks with Sprint to try to bring that and wimax (4G) products/service to the US. Intel has created some great chips which further provide more ease to create a pocket laptop but so far the designs are not right and just like what happened to all of the thumb and 7″ umpc’s, I suspect they will not do well either. When will computer companies realize what mainstream users want?

]]> By: Alan http://rodfathermobile.com/2007/11/03/cheap-subnotebooks-and-umpcs-with-touch-keyboard-size-comparison/comment-page-1/#comment-1966 Alan Thu, 15 Nov 2007 04:35:36 +0000 http://rodfathermobile.com/2007/11/03/cheap-subnotebooks-and-umpcs-with-touch-keyboard-size-comparison/#comment-1966 You are wrong remember the great Psion 5mx with expanding keyboard? The device was a mere 6.9" yet was one of the best keyboards that easily could type at near desktop speeds. I personally typed about 75% of desktop speed touch typing the Psion 5mx. What UMPC's need is a modern Psion form factor. You are wrong remember the great Psion 5mx with expanding keyboard? The device was a mere 6.9″ yet was one of the best keyboards that easily could type at near desktop speeds. I personally typed about 75% of desktop speed touch typing the Psion 5mx.

What UMPC’s need is a modern Psion form factor.

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